Thoughts of the new additions to survival season 5?

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WHATSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GOOD YALL.
Season five. GAH DAMN SOMEONE COOKED! Now cause a lot of thoughts in the three forum posts threads will be suffocated by comments I thought we might as well put our thoughts about season 5 here!

As always be respectful of others opinions and don’t shy to share your own thoughts!

Here’s my thoughts:

Classes

the new class system is quite interesting and I’m wondering if people can have multiple classes, that said I am disappointed it didn’t have classes in the crossword like wizard but I am still interested to see the long term impact on the game with these classes!

Custom terrain

Adding terralith is definitely my favorite new feature from how amazing this add on is. This adds so much new fun structures and features to survival and I’m so happy it’s being added plus I have yet to see the new update and from the looks of it, it looks lovely. I’m already calling HARD dibs on a mage complex!!!

Daily Login

Login rewards making activity go up and giving people new rewards for streaks was a smart. It not sneaky move by the devs ;). Great idea whoever thought of it!!!

Events

I’m so impressed with how much content we are getting, 5 more events is CRAZY! I’m so hyped already!

New championship games

Survival games is FINALLY BACKKKKKKKKK (sorta!) and laser tag is interesting… I wonder what game in the trailer for season 5 was, is it survival games? Or something else……

Rank changes

I am changing my opinion! I think most things are nice but removing keep inventory from players who bought roles ONLY FOR THAT is scummish. It’s also dumb cause more people will buy ranks to avoid paying the fee of the well.

Other changes

The well of souls is interesting, I’m feeling mostly positive for it but it does take some of the pressure of staying alive to not lose items away but then again ranked players don’t deal with that anyways now lol.

The cosmicoins being reduced is F**KING AMAZING THANK YOUUUUUU!!! Woooooo!

The crates I don’t know if I like…… it’s interesting yes but idk it could just be me. I dislike not being able to win particles but it’s good that we can get scammed spending 200 gold on keys and only getting 23 or something back lol.

Seasonal crates not focusing on particles i dig. Weapon skins yall better cook with though or else >:( !

Fly tokens I like the changes

Custom mobs and bosses I say TAKE YOUR TIME WITH! Make sure it’s all good! I am intrigued for it but it ain’t my most hyped thing ig lol idk.

Let’s be real no one read the lore so rewards being prioritized is nice.

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hi ross o/

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:+1:

There’s also a lot of hidden content I can’t wait for everyone to see and mess around with! S5 is literally double the size of S4 based on code which is crazy seeing as S4 was already massive.

Also, yes you can have multiple classes! :sunglasses:

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Having multiple seems definitely chaotic I’ll say that, but double is impressive amazing work!!

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I’m going to log in for my daily reward and then log back off.

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You shoulda made this post after s5 released, it woulda been so fire :disappointed:

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I mean I can make two posts

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i think removing keepinv for those who bought it is a scam LMAO
adding chest of sorrows is great overall, but removing the perk for those who paid for it in favor of that? worst idea ever LMAO
someone could 100% sue for that if they, like me, bought the rank just for that perk LOL

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I can see your point of view, its scummish for people who bought a rank just for that. The well is good for people but ranks deserve keep inventory, not to mention it sells more ranks cause no one wants to pay the fee!!!

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Yeah I guess a lot of the changes are nice, but me personally all the good changes don’t feel as great knowing multiple features I paid money for are getting removed and nerfed. It’s frustrating.

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The new polls of the month soon will have a lot of survival polls

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Now that it’s out what do yall think about season 5 so far?

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I don’t think i have an actual opinion just yet but the custom biomes are cool!!

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Very meh rn…

Not crazy about the new skills thing, but I’ll probably like it more once I progress a bit more :stuck_out_tongue:

Custom biomes on the otherhand are so friggin overwhelming!!! Tbf, I’ve never liked any form of custom biomes so I’m probably jst bias.

Apart from that it’s great!

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Now that fly is out, it’s time for me to talk about how I feel about the changes, having experienced them. I do not like the new fly changes. I had a staff member in my dms saying that they genuinely ruined fly, and that they were going to just use carpet from now on. I understand fully where they are coming from. You lose hunger EXTREMELY quickly, and in my opinion that kind of ruins the flying ability, because you can only fly for like 30 seconds at a time unless you’re constantly eating.

Now for the chest of sorrows,
I thank the higher ups that made the decision to make it free for elite + legend, but there are still issues with it that I believe should be acknowledged. Cheater said that the changes were intended for newer players. I have seen SO many new players say things asking where their stuff went, or saying that they are broke and need a lot of money to get their things back. The majority of new players have no idea what the chest of sorrows is when they die. When they find out, they usually are sad because the stuff they worked hard for is locked in a chest until they can get x amount of gold. My friend who only recently got + said they are extremely upset with the changes because of the amount they die. They said that they die a lot, and if they play it will be exhausting to try to get the gold to get their stuff back every time. They liked the old system where your stuff just drops because it’s free and you can go get it! I do see the perks of chest of sorrows because at least your stuff is safe and won’t despawn. But overall, I dislike chest of sorrows. I like the concept, but the way that the gold gets more expensive based on the value of the items I do not like.

++ as a rank has had its value decrease greatly, and I think that if there isn’t a price adjustment, then it’s just completely not worth it to buy. When these changes were announced, I swore that I wouldn’t spend another penny on this server. I have stayed true to that and I have no intentions of ever buying anything again on here. My trust has been broken. I still stand by all my original statements about these changes. I still feel scammed. Maybe you agree with me, maybe not, but if you agree with me, you should voice your opinion so that maybe they will listen. I don’t think that things will change for the better, but I do hope that the right people will hear this and change things back to how they were.

One last thing, is that no one really said why they went against the poll results that I previously posted. Not many had an issue with the rank perks as they were, and I think it’s unfair to say that many people wanted this when it’s just factually not true. I think it’s pretty funny that they said they listened to community feedback, when most of the feedback showed that the ranks were loved as they were. Thanks for listening and feel free to comment with your thoughts or on things that I may have missed.

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This response mainly concerns fly. There’s been discussions about sorrow chests and it already received a nerf. I believe, for those who follow discord discussions, that there will be more changes to it so let’s see how we could make it better!

I believe it is important to consider something. While complains are great to voice up personal opinions, what is smarter, to me, is respectfully stating a faced issue alongside suggestions to fix it… Why am I saying this? There’s been quite the heat during opinions about perks changed and it did nothing but rising hate towards people that worked hard for those, people that spent months working on a game mode just for us to have fun playing it wether you see it as a scam or not, wether it’s intended or not, which here isn’t intended to be one.

If you have an issue, voice it, yes, but please come up with solutions that make the game better and more enjoyable to people rather than inviting everyone to shame a nerf and make it sound like everyone hates it.

That’s one thing I had to say…

But before I leave my personal thoughts, I believe there are things that has to be addressed before they get brought up:

  • You do not take any fall damage when you fly is disabled. You only get teleported to the ground.

(Meow, there’s some bugs where you take damage that hopefully will be fixed)

  • The current system that blocks fly when you wear armor will be removed. It’s been said that it’s an old test they did and shouldn’t be a permanent change.
  • The current system that blocks fly from having a full inventory will be removed too.

Regarding my opinion… I believe fly is fine but bear with me, that does not mean that it is better than before.

Why?:

  • Simply because it should reduce (wether its by a lot or not) the unfairness gap between ranked and non ranked players.
  • People have to mind their own actions, meaning you will have to manage yourself in order to have fly.

I agree that this nerf kinda changes your play style in certain ways:

  • You won’t be able to mine easily with fly.

(Which literally is acceptable considering fly won’t be the supposed cause of ranked players making more gold than others)

  • It might be more tedious to plan on making huge builds.

(Which is, again, something time will tell. Fly was on within a couple minutes… moreover we omit the case where people can stand on blocks to place others, which doesn’t make your hunger go down)

But overall, when it comes to flying large distances, there isn’t really anything to complain about. Sure, flying is harder with the hunger feature but let’s be honest, if it’s just about distances, bring food…
Some issues people seem to claim have alternatives but even though they can be considered as a hassle, we cannot help you if you do not wish to help yourself and make your play style easier. Bear with me, try flying long distances with food in your f hand and hold right click while flying, it’s not that hard… I had a recording of me travelling 3000 blocks with only consuming 3 steaks but I can’t send it here… food is easy to access, cheap, and literally way faster to farm with the creature hunter skill (doubles passive mobs loot)

Now…

I believe there’s really no point in arguing…
Some people will like the change, some people won’t like the change and there’s NOTHING we can do about it unless we decide to come up with suggestions that will please everyone.

So far, there’s not much that I can come up with that’d solve the supposed issue:

  • Bringing back fly to its original form.
  • Lower the amount of hunger loss. (Which I believe is better in my opinion)

That’s mostly what/all I wanted to say

Everyone have their own points of views, but let’s consider a solution rather that bringing everyone to complain for the sake of complaining!

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The chest of sorrows is great for new people who don’t die a lot but if you die with like let’s say I don’t know, I enchanted diamond gear or some things that are really low value it’s annoying to spend 30g to buy the non high value stuff back.

I barley trust the chest myself, I feel it is great if you died with high value stuff and paying 40g is not bad for it but for lower value items stuff it’s annoying.

As an example maybe you afk’d with an inventory full of sugar cane you wish to use, then a spider killed you. Sure the items ain’t worth much but it’s annoying rather then just being able to pick it up.

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We are not hating staff just their decision, it’s why we tried our best to have civil discussions about /fly and the keep inventory changes. Obviously when you take away op perks someone has they’ll be sad, especially if they paid for it but we know it’s for the state of other non ranked peoples experiences too.

There is no hatred towards staff here on vivivns or any of the other people disagreeing with these changes im in contact with’s end!

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I agree with that. And trust, it’s been acknowledged. There’re discussions about it and an option to potentially retrieve all items at once instead of being an item at a time. :sunglasses:

I don’t know what else they’ll plan but there’s definitely room for improvement!

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Considering shulkers will come today and food will only decrease in price I think /fly needs more time until it costs your hunger but shulkers will exist so just put food in a shulker!

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